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So there is probably another DA somewhere. Like I said at the start, IF he is an "expert coastal engineer" then we are in a much deeper hole than I imagined. Section 2.4 Item 4 - classic stuff. Def landing size incorrect i reckon900mm min ? And since there's been no budget allocated for future buy backs. They also recently dug the mother of all holes in the sand and put huge foundations down ( well over a years work) for what I thought was further erosion work but turn out to be a access ramp for beach who cant step down onto the beach. Absolutely spot on, Craig. Ray Collins eat your heart out.. Good find. Take the houses away eventually they would be building a wall to protect that road that you whinging moles drive around on for 20min checking it. However, theres an irony that could've beenliftedstraight out of a script for Utopia. I guess that the levees will give me a 100% guarantee that it'll never happen in my lifetime". This has cut into the base of the dunes below the surf club. When deciding to spend rate payer dollars, on what metric do they use without using the big IF ? Until then the owners can continue to enjoy their delightful seashore experience. There is a common denominator here, "Coastal" engineers with a lack of knowledge and understanding of coastal processes. Might discuss that with @surfriderfoundation and Surfrider Foundation Sunshine Coast, and those people and localised groups finding themselves in positions of having to fight this idiocy. The matter is currently under investigation by Environmental . Statements such as the two below can only be classified as opinion unless you link to references. Lake that has been going on for the last 20 years. To my way of thinking, and with a working understanding of government process, the real issue is the approval process. Both Brendan Donohoe and Angus Gordon, and other people Swellnet spoke to, admit to being blindsided by the construction. Its also been the focus point for opposition to coastal development; an abject lesson about what results from bad policy. In a story on Northern Beaches Review, Bob Orth, who lives in one of the houses behind the seawall, said the seawall should inspire others to do likewise. "When a hard structure is introduced to the equation we see an increase in reflective energy and turbulence, slowing the accretion of sand while also accelerating erosion in storm conditions." Northern Beaches council has received a new application by five local property owners to build two new sections of the wall in front of their properties to protect the homes from coastal . "Have you ever seen such a magnificent view as the one from our balcony overlooking this active volcano? Spot on. But, they just persist time and time again. There is no evidence whatsoever of accelerated erosion seaward of these newly constructed works. You can go to court to complain about the price, but you cant object to the acquisition. If it were replicated along vulnerable areas of the NSW coast (and that of other states) we would never be able to afford adaptation. Didnt hear boo about that from anyone ? Sure if youve bought the last 5 years ignorance cant be an excuse, but theres nothing wrong with wanting to live on the beach. 47 votes, 47 comments. I think the wall is actually a good warning of exactly what governments mean by "adaptation and mitigation"..expensive projects for the construction industry rather than sound ecological management. Yes and do they have tactile indicators in the correct place? As hostile native rescue party moves in for the killOh the Humanityreads Humilityreads Kook! Where I live though the beach has no erosion issues but the council is trying curtail landowners rights significantly due to potential sea level rises combined with 1 in 100 year storms etc. There are plenty of other spots along the coast vulnerable to rising seas and more intense storms but Collaroy is one of the most difficult to address. Only thing that would be better if they made a foot path on top of it so wheel chair bandits and a like get to use the cost line as well, "Or boarding a jumbo jet to go for a surf and buy the latest board all things responsible for the needing of the wall in the first place.". I'm invested now, and want to know the latest. Now digging up the facts of this case would prove fascinatingthe applicant, the judges, the arguments, the ruling etc one if there is precedent for seeking compensation for judicial rulings made in error. That video represents a nightmare scenario, no beach, no waves and similar to Zen's story ie man made interference gone wrong. The problem is one of vertical fiscal imbalance. Or boarding a jumbo jet to go for a surf and buy the latest board all things responsible for the needing of the wall in the first place. It only does BOUSSINESQ wave interaction and NOT sediment transport but you can still get a lot of good design-feedback that concrete is a lovely blank canvas for some choice words. I'd reckon the road, arterial services (electrical, sewerage, etc) and the houses all factors. Yep pretty significant increase in the height. We had made a big mistake that would become bigger. Im presuming that sand delivery's from the lagoon will be an ongoing thing. Collaroy Park Estate Narrabeen: Sea View Pde, Beach Rd, Collaroy Ave, Main Pittwater Rd, Govt. As you know we have the Great Ocean Road down here , which was a huge Tourist attraction ( before Covid.) The above video might be of interest to help understand the design of the wall. A "macabre" scene greeted surfers followinga mass kill of invertebrates. "The only feasible way forward without wasting any more council and tax payers money to protect the properties in question is to acquire the properties at any cost and return them to a naturalised stated." 3) How much has Council spent on legal fees defending Land & Environment Court appeals related to seawalls since the 2016 storm? It's orders of magnitude more than a bunch of multi-million dollar properties at risk. All of which. Whether the NSW state government / local council want to backflip with a pike on their current failing seawall master plan is another thing. Much bigger. July 28, 2021 - 7:04AM. Staged retreats seem the best option, but also some councils are genuinely desperate to embrace the most apocalyptic climate change forecasts. And as I said in my first comment that is because of the road. Given Council has already completed protection works on public land, and there's been a lot of talk about the owners' seawall, understanding all the facts is important. But, I think its just basically supply and demand. Both Donohoe and Gorden were correct, up to a point: The construction began with concrete piles sunk six metres below sea level, protected by a rock toe. Step 5: Construct the Seawall. It's going to be carnage there this morning & yesterday afternoon even, solid 6-8ft sets on a big high, anyone heading down for a look? Pipeline specialist injured while duckdiving in heavy waves. I wouldnt have thought there would be much fetch? The Collaroy seawall was in part constructed after a significant storm event in 2016 eroded 50 metres along the Narrabeen and Collaroy shoreline, causing damage to waterside properties. To add a bit of controversy, I've often wondered: Is Carties borderline just a novelty wave? Engineered to Australian Standards. Joint Venture adopts new name, Te Puna Aonui. Posted the story from that link here. I first noticed them when I went to Nijjima island in the early 90's and asked what were they reply was to protect the land from erosion.they actually had the moulds for the TP's there and just kept making them when needed.. Rd: 7th Oct. 1912: c041070001: 1912: Z/SP/C25/1a: Collaroy Park Estate Narrabeen: No boundaries shown: 7th Oct. 1912: c041070002 [1915] Z/SP/C25/2 [plan of Collaroy] Government Rd, Sea View Pde, Collaroy Ave, Main Pittwater Rd, Jenkins Pde, Beach Rd . Proven time and time and time again that sea walls do not work- period. The council will be the lone 'interest'. Sorry wasnt specifically referring to collaroy which I completely agree has been a known and long term problem. Are the exposed quarried rocks part of the construction/ foundation or are they from pre existing efforts. It may not happen in my lifetime [fingers-crosssed] but it's a real issue when thinking about your children who eventually inherit your home. The process is cyclical, however short-sighted development upon the foredune, built during times of a wide beach profile, impedes the system. Pre-existing or failing seawalls (if any) should be removed as part of Step 2. Yep. There's been significant coastal erosion (acute) along the GOR in recent years, though only a handful of places have experienced coastal recession (chronic). We need to get all the data and expert opinions out in the open before decisions are made. Ratepayer/taxpayer bailout, so business as usual whatever happened to caveat emptor? Good point, Lilas, but I think the issues around hard structures and beach environments have been established for so long and are so well known in the coastal management field that it's taken as read. Or as the comment above lists - quoted by Prof Short - not let the property developers and real estate industry interfere with good management strategy decades ago that would have avoided council being left with a steaming pile of shit. we all end up paying for it directly if we haven't already e.g. Who could forget the MOLE building or the spoil from the North Head Sewage Works tipped over the cliff? After five years and four contests, the performance level at Kelly's Hot Tub hasn't evolved but instead gone the other way. They needed see this, but still probably wouldnt t have believed it. Its like stepping forty years back in time. The beach has remained under threat since that time, with additional erosion occurring during subsequent storms. At this point, no-one can say if any consultation occurred, though the cynical view is council ticked the box by distributing flyers to the immediate neighbours, all of whom would want similar works built to protect their properties. 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